tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post7605679040337264679..comments2023-10-30T08:55:18.553+01:00Comments on SOA and EDA: EDA versus CEP, once again...Jack van Hoofhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10073941747649739657noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-64360685655618895082009-02-22T02:37:00.000+01:002009-02-22T02:37:00.000+01:00I have to agree - there is a real need for clarity...I have to agree - there is a real need for clarity of definitions, without the hijacking of definitions to suit product vendorsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-57193722084208936282008-11-10T08:04:00.000+01:002008-11-10T08:04:00.000+01:00Hi Jack,Thanks for post. My comments are here:htt...Hi Jack,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for post. My comments are here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.thecepblog.com/2008/11/10/cep-is-not-a-just-a-technology-and-not-just-a-tool/<BR/><BR/>Yours sincerely, TimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-12167315536252880022008-10-31T19:01:00.000+01:002008-10-31T19:01:00.000+01:00Agree on Alex's comment. Architecture is not vendo...Agree on Alex's comment. Architecture is not vendor products. A lot of companies are still in the mentality of EAI time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-16272890895994797472008-10-29T23:58:00.000+01:002008-10-29T23:58:00.000+01:00Great topic. My raw take: a CEP engine is to EDA w...Great topic. My raw take: a CEP engine is to EDA was an ESB is to SOA.<BR/>Details <A HREF="http://avasseur.blogspot.com/2008/10/soa-eda-and-cep.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000951254466645137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-88039939284127940512008-10-29T13:56:00.000+01:002008-10-29T13:56:00.000+01:00Hi Jack, I'm definitely of the same opinion as you...Hi Jack, <BR/><BR/>I'm definitely of the same opinion as you on this matter. Good job in trying to beat this message into peoples minds. It's necessary to try to sort out this mess of SOA/EDA/CEP before the whole CEP/EDA thing dies out because it's used and thought of in a wrong way. Keep up the writing!<BR/><BR/>/MarcoMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15928652667178672308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-22965278782003165782008-10-29T04:58:00.000+01:002008-10-29T04:58:00.000+01:00Hi Jack - It's been a while, but I'm glad to be po...Hi Jack - It's been a while, but I'm glad to be posting in response to your thoughts on my new channel at StreamBase. I posted some thoughts here:<BR/><BR/>http://streambase.typepad.com/streambase_stream_process/2008/10/eda-and-cep-wheres-the-beef.html<BR/><BR/>Basically the question I was raising is: "Who is causing the confusion?" and "Perhaps the reason the industry focuses on CEP is because it's the disruptive element of EDA?"<BR/><BR/>- Mark Palmer, StreamBaseMark Palmer, StreamBase CEOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505562132817125644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-74072588947360374092008-10-27T17:45:00.000+01:002008-10-27T17:45:00.000+01:00Hi Jack, I fully support your point of view, who...Hi Jack,<BR/><BR/> I fully support your point of view, who wouldn't? <BR/><BR/>Thanks for putting it in such a clear words. <BR/><BR/><BR/>CEP deals with a subset of the aspects of an EDA.<BR/><BR/>Why aren't the vendors talking about EDA instead of CEP? EDA has a potential comparable to SOA, where's IBM?<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>PatternStormAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-6195194172275702052008-10-27T17:11:00.000+01:002008-10-27T17:11:00.000+01:00Unfortunately, that is happening in most companies...Unfortunately, that is happening in most companies nowadays, mixing architecture principals with implementation methods. I wonder what caused this? Is this because of the vendors or just certain people in IT department to use it for bragging purpose to get the budget from the business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29701096.post-2952175695594015012008-10-27T12:14:00.000+01:002008-10-27T12:14:00.000+01:00For quite a while now, we have been trying to expl...For quite a while now, we have been trying to explain to people that Service Oriented Architecture (SOA) is a lot more than Just A Bunch Of Web Services (JBOWS).<BR/><BR/>So I plan to start using a new acronym - JBOCE - Just A Bunch Of Complex Events. <BR/><BR/>See my <A HREF="http://rvsoapbox.blogspot.com/2008/10/jboce-just-bunch-of-complex-events.html" REL="nofollow">SOAPbox blog</A>.Richard Veryardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04499123397533975655noreply@blogger.com